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Post by Spoon on May 14, 2024 14:10:27 GMT -6
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Post by ljsites on May 14, 2024 15:39:29 GMT -6
The staff could not have screwed this up any worse. Linke is the only one you can put on the floor and he's the odd man out? I'm out of words to describe how bad of a decision and approach this is. Your margin for error is zero. We weren't good enough last year, and we're going into this season as a worse team with the same exact depth issues that killed us last season. The staff is banking on the league being terrible, hitting on every recruit, Davis being much better, and nobody getting hurt. Seems like a solid plan  . Everyone seems oblivious to this obviousness. I keep telling myself there has to be more to this story for it to make sense, but it just keeps getting dumber. Football coaches are out here paying walk-ons NIL money because 85 scholarships isn't enough. Baseball coaches are lobbying for more scholarships. Basketball coaches overrecruit and boot guys constantly. ...And we can barely play 5-on-5 with D1 players. |
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Post by bradleyfan3423 on May 14, 2024 19:39:07 GMT -6
What happened to Wardle not accepting players back once they entered the portal? Biliew is the guy that changes his mind on that? Yikes
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Post by squirrel on May 14, 2024 20:10:13 GMT -6
What happened to Wardle not accepting players back once they entered the portal? Biliew is the guy that changes his mind on that? Yikes Zek changed it. |
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Post by laviola on May 14, 2024 21:11:34 GMT -6
I guess I’m not as outraged as I don’t think you really expect the number 12-13 on the roster to contribute in games. In the old days, those were spots for freshman to sit a year or redshirt waiting for them to develop. Today, I’d rather a freshman who isn’t going to play this year go get experience in the SoCon and transfer to BU for his Sophomore year.
If Valley schools are going to be treated as feeder programs for P5 schools we need to treat low major programs as our feeder system.
It’s a relevant conversation to discuss the quality of our top 9 guys, but Gonnar and Cade sitting at the end of the bench on scholarship isn’t going to win or lose us anything this year or have any impact on next year.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on May 14, 2024 21:51:33 GMT -6
I guess I’m not as outraged as I don’t think you really expect the number 12-13 on the roster to contribute in games. In the old days, those were spots for freshman to sit a year or redshirt waiting for them to develop. Today, I’d rather a freshman who isn’t going to play this year go get experience in the SoCon and transfer to BU for his Sophomore year. If Valley schools are going to be treated as feeder programs for P5 schools we need to treat low major programs as our feeder system. It’s a relevant conversation to discuss the quality of our top 9 guys, but Gonnar and Cade sitting at the end of the bench on scholarship isn’t going to win or lose us anything this year or have any impact on next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s not about scholarships 12-13. It’s using those two rides to compete at the upper end and pushing the top 8-9 for playing time and maybe moving a guy or two down. There is no rule that the last two rides have to 12-13 on the depth chart automatically. |
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on May 14, 2024 22:59:10 GMT -6
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned - why use the 13th ride at all? In today’s age there is a very good chance there will be some decent players available at mid season. By giving Goanar that ride you have no flexibility if a surprise situation presents itself.
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Post by Butler Blue on May 15, 2024 6:24:01 GMT -6
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned - why use the 13th ride at all? In today’s age there is a very good chance there will be some decent players available at mid season. By giving Goanar that ride you have no flexibility if a surprise situation presents itself. That really could become a pretty likely strategy. Sit on your last two scholarships for potential midseason transfers. |
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Post by jeffr16 on May 15, 2024 6:40:44 GMT -6
I guess I’m not as outraged as I don’t think you really expect the number 12-13 on the roster to contribute in games. In the old days, those were spots for freshman to sit a year or redshirt waiting for them to develop. Today, I’d rather a freshman who isn’t going to play this year go get experience in the SoCon and transfer to BU for his Sophomore year. If Valley schools are going to be treated as feeder programs for P5 schools we need to treat low major programs as our feeder system. It’s a relevant conversation to discuss the quality of our top 9 guys, but Gonnar and Cade sitting at the end of the bench on scholarship isn’t going to win or lose us anything this year or have any impact on next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s not about scholarships 12-13. It’s using those two rides to compete at the upper end and pushing the top 8-9 for playing time and maybe moving a guy or two down. There is no rule that the last two rides have to 12-13 on the depth chart automatically. This, 100% this. My hope going into next year was that 11-13 on the depth chart were going to be the freshman and Meta. Now Meta & the freshman are 9-11 and Gonnar & Cade are 12 & 13. Also disappointed that we wouldn't take a flyer on a HS kid for the end of the bench. At least someone that could possibly develop instead of literally punting the last 2 spots. |
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Post by bcg on May 15, 2024 7:29:07 GMT -6
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned - why use the 13th ride at all? In today’s age there is a very good chance there will be some decent players available at mid season. By giving Goanar that ride you have no flexibility if a surprise situation presents itself. My guess (hope) is that Goanar is a placeholder and can be moved if the right opportunity presents itself. I feel like the roster is always fluid now. |
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Post by laviola on May 15, 2024 7:36:37 GMT -6
I guess I’m not as outraged as I don’t think you really expect the number 12-13 on the roster to contribute in games. In the old days, those were spots for freshman to sit a year or redshirt waiting for them to develop. Today, I’d rather a freshman who isn’t going to play this year go get experience in the SoCon and transfer to BU for his Sophomore year. If Valley schools are going to be treated as feeder programs for P5 schools we need to treat low major programs as our feeder system. It’s a relevant conversation to discuss the quality of our top 9 guys, but Gonnar and Cade sitting at the end of the bench on scholarship isn’t going to win or lose us anything this year or have any impact on next year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s not about scholarships 12-13. It’s using those two rides to compete at the upper end and pushing the top 8-9 for playing time and maybe moving a guy or two down. There is no rule that the last two rides have to 12-13 on the depth chart automatically. But we can’t force kids to come play here. It hasn’t been officially declared this is happening and I’m 100% confident if a player came available who could compete for minutes and wanted to come to Bradley we would absolutely offer them a scholarship. Reality is it’s going to be impossible for 13 players to get meaningful playing time and I think long term it’s in the staffs best interest to be honest with players about playing time expectations than create discontent during the season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on May 15, 2024 7:45:52 GMT -6
It’s not about scholarships 12-13. It’s using those two rides to compete at the upper end and pushing the top 8-9 for playing time and maybe moving a guy or two down. There is no rule that the last two rides have to 12-13 on the depth chart automatically. But we can’t force kids to come play here. It hasn’t been officially declared this is happening and I’m 100% confident if a player came available who could compete for minutes and wanted to come to Bradley we would absolutely offer them a scholarship. Reality is it’s going to be impossible for 13 players to get meaningful playing time and I think long term it’s in the staffs best interest to be honest with players about playing time expectations than create discontent during the season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No. I doubt players are just going to be calling Bradley begging to come without any prior contact from the staff. It’s called recruiting for a reason. It’s a verb that means an action done by the staff. If you aren’t actively recruiting players then of course you aren’t going to find any who would like to come play at your school. |
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Post by ER3 on May 15, 2024 9:13:28 GMT -6
This is such a pathetic, half-assed effort by the staff to fill out a roster in a year that everything has lined up for us to potentially own the Valley. Instead of going out and doing the work to recruit additional bench contributors and to sell guys on the fact that they are needed to fill important roles for us on what should be a championship level team, the coaches took the easiest possible way out and threw away the last scholarships to a couple non-D1 players that happen to be buddies with everyone else on the team...culture, culture, culture, culture...blah blah blah blah.
So, instead of having guys that are likely to be non-contributors (or minimal contributors at best) like Meta and Van Der Knaap in the 12th and 13th spots...where they should be...we've given those spots to a walk-on and Goanar. So that moves Meta and Timoty up to the 10th and 11th spots...and you've got another freshman in the 9th spot...hopefully he is ready to contribute something in year 1...because he's probably going to be forced to do so...ready or not.
Corey Thomas better be really, really awesome at the 5 spot this year...and made of titanium...because if he gets injured or underperforms, we've got absolutely nothing backing him up at the 5...Almar, Meta, Goanar...yay! There's a really quick way to have our championship season sunk before we even get to the conference schedule...1 injury and we've got 25-30 minutes of Almar and Meta at the 5 spot...ugh.
Hey...I get it...it's harder to recruit guys when you can't offer them a guaranteed 30 minutes a night this year...It's much easier for the staff when they only have 8 or 9 guys on the roster that can realistically expect to play any minutes at all this year...they get to avoid all of those pesky, difficult conversations throughout the year with guys 10, 11, and 12 on the roster when they aren't getting minutes and are talented enough to do so...
But those difficult things...those are part of the job of being part of a D1 coaching staff...or at least they should be.
They are doing everything possible to take the easy way out right now...and to make sure there are no waves, no conflicts, nothing but hugs and happiness between the 14-15 guys on this roster...but they have already painted themselves into a corner this year...those top 8 guys all have to stay healthy all year long...Zek, Dillon, and Corey Thomas all have to be absolutely as good as they think they will be from day 1...Almar and Burch will need to take big steps forward...no sophomore slumps allowed...because there is really no plan B anywhere on this roster beyond the top 8-9 guys...An injury or two...or an underwhelming showing from a D2 or JUCO transfer and we're completely done. No depth...no margin for error...
But hey...maybe this is what Wardle wants...he can read this board and print out these inane ramblings from idiots like us and use it as bulletin board material to motivate the team...
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Post by JMM28 on May 15, 2024 11:44:35 GMT -6
Linke will probably be back. He is definitely going to still be a student at BU. Still TBD if he wants to be on the team or not.
Timo might surprise some folks with what he can bring to the table. Same with Bully.
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Post by catalyst82 on May 15, 2024 20:04:26 GMT -6
Goanar's 5 minutes on senior night translated into a $160,000+ scholarship.
This roster might work in this year's Valley dumpster fire, but man this is disappointing.
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Post by Butler Blue on May 16, 2024 7:42:27 GMT -6
Linke will probably be back. He is definitely going to still be a student at BU. Still TBD if he wants to be on the team or not. Timo might surprise some folks with what he can bring to the table. Same with Bully. Any chance that Linke will be a mid-term graduate? |
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Post by ER3 on May 16, 2024 9:05:43 GMT -6
Linke will probably be back. He is definitely going to still be a student at BU. Still TBD if he wants to be on the team or not. Timo might surprise some folks with what he can bring to the table. Same with Bully. Any chance that Linke will be a mid-term graduate? Unless I'm doing my math wrong (or someone is leaving that hasn't been announced yet), there isn't going to be a scholarship available for Linke this season. Deen, Hannah, Zek, Dillon, Thomas, Almar, Burch, Davis, Johnson, Van Der Knaap, Meta, Hardtke, Biliew...that's 13. So, if Linke was going to play this season...I'd assume he'd have to do it as a walk-on (not sure if that is even legal for a guy to drop down from being a scholarship player to a walk-on the next year and play on the same team...  )....or one of those 13 guys listed here would have to back out to open a scholarship up... |
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Post by laviola on May 16, 2024 9:26:57 GMT -6
I still think it’s incredibly naive to think BU had a chance or identified a player who could contribute with substantial minutes and opted to not bother giving him a phone call or recruiting him because the staff was worried about hurting someone’s feelings or was lazy. I don’t know BW personally, but his professional persona seems anything but lazy. And I’m 100% confident that if that player comes across their radar we will absolutely try to bring them in on scholarship which is why nothing has officially been announced regarding the last two.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on May 16, 2024 10:40:14 GMT -6
I still think it’s incredibly naive to think BU had a chance or identified a player who could contribute with substantial minutes and opted to not bother giving him a phone call or recruiting him because the staff was worried about hurting someone’s feelings or was lazy. I don’t know BW personally, but his professional persona seems anything but lazy. And I’m 100% confident that if that player comes across their radar we will absolutely try to bring them in on scholarship which is why nothing has officially been announced regarding the last two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If that player isn’t out there then Bradley should have like five all league selections and go something like 17-1 in the league. One would then assume that any player transferring to a fellow MVC school wouldn’t crack the rotation at BU. |
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Post by JMM28 on May 16, 2024 10:54:43 GMT -6
Any chance that Linke will be a mid-term graduate? Unless I'm doing my math wrong (or someone is leaving that hasn't been announced yet), there isn't going to be a scholarship available for Linke this season. Deen, Hannah, Zek, Dillon, Thomas, Almar, Burch, Davis, Johnson, Van Der Knaap, Meta, Hardtke, Biliew...that's 13. So, if Linke was going to play this season...I'd assume he'd have to do it as a walk-on (not sure if that is even legal for a guy to drop down from being a scholarship player to a walk-on the next year and play on the same team... )....or one of those 13 guys listed here would have to back out to open a scholarship up... If Linke is back, he'd be a walk on. |
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. Everyone seems oblivious to this obviousness.
)....or one of those 13 guys listed here would have to back out to open a scholarship up...