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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 8:55:55 GMT -6
I honestly don't understand Wardle's affinity for tiny point guards. Just once, I would love to see a 6'3 point guard run his stuff. Thing is though, I still haven't figured out what his offense actually is. In fairness - I don't know the last 6-3 PG that ran a team in the MVC. The best teams in recent MVC history were run by a 5-11, not physically imposing Fred VanVleet. (And before the responses coming - those Shocker teams wipe the floor with the Loyola Final Four team) That's fair. And honestly, Bruce Weber had a chance to take Fred, and passed on him. I saw him play at state, and was like yep. That dude can play. 6'3 might be a stretch, I'll allow for that. But 5'7 - 5'8? We're going to have the same problems we've had in the past. Hopefully he can shoot, because he won't be able to Derrick Rose his way to the rim on a daily basis.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 8:56:42 GMT -6
And yes, those WSU teams absolutely murder Loyola all day.
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Post by bradleytownie on Sept 20, 2024 9:08:14 GMT -6
I honestly don't understand Wardle's affinity for tiny point guards. Just once, I would love to see a 6'3 point guard run his stuff. Thing is though, I still haven't figured out what his offense actually is. I think the answer is that a lot of these shorter guards have tons of talent and would be on power conference teams if they fit the size norm. Look at Montana Wheeler's offers when he was a Freshman and Sophomore in HS. But the growth spurt didn't happen so I assume he got recruited over by those schools. I don't know that Duke Deen would be playing on Bradley if we were 6 inches taller. Also the fact that DB is on staff and there is a track record of success with smaller PGs is kind of a cool niche and a way to market yourself to a guy like Wheeler.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 9:43:46 GMT -6
I mean, if this guy is Darrell Brown or even Duke Deen, cool. I just don't like guys that are that freaking short. Sorry lol
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 9:44:38 GMT -6
I still remember the hype over Tramique Sutherland lol. That dude was a shrimp, and was weak as hell.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Sept 20, 2024 9:58:28 GMT -6
I still remember the hype over Tramique Sutherland lol. That dude was a shrimp, and was weak as hell. Tramique was a great JUCO player. Just didn't translate well. Same with Tyrone Cole Scott. For sure shorter guys are "riskier" but I think Coach Wardle has gained the benefit of the doubt when it comes to that subset of player.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 10:02:17 GMT -6
Fair. But he's gonna have limitations, especially on defense. We've seen Duke's limitations. I would just love to have a little more height in the backcourt. Wish in one hand and shit in another I suppose.
But for someone to say that height is overrated...That's fucking insane. Sorry.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 10:10:29 GMT -6
I have my concerns about him - but those are more to do with him staying than his ability to play. But get players and see how it turns out. According to the Journal Star, he had offers from LSU, K State, St. Johns, UCF, and Texas A&M. Seems like if he wanted to go play with the big boys, he already had that chance, though I get money might have been a factor. Hmmm. Are these actual committable offers? I feel like this list of schools is quite suspicious for him to end up coming from Texas to Peoria.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 10:11:32 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong. I really hope he's the next coming of DB Cinco (although much shorter). Maybe we'll see.
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Post by kingadard1959 on Sept 20, 2024 10:15:05 GMT -6
I believe those were early offers there is an ESPN post that has him rated a 4 star. He was 2nd highest scorer in Houston area last season at 22ppg shot the 3 at 49% somewhere around 3 apg.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 10:16:56 GMT -6
I believe those were early offers there is an ESPN post that has him rated a 4 star. He was 2nd highest scorer in Houston area last season at 22ppg shot the 3 at 49% somewhere around 3 apg. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk Nice. Well, if he can shoot it and score at that rate, we just might have something. I'm kinda skeptical tho.
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Post by kingadard1959 on Sept 20, 2024 10:26:39 GMT -6
I believe those were early offers there is an ESPN post that has him rated a 4 star. He was 2nd highest scorer in Houston area last season at 22ppg shot the 3 at 49% somewhere around 3 apg. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk Nice. Well, if he can shoot it and score at that rate, we just might have something. I'm kinda skeptical tho. I've seen several videos of him, he's not afraid to drive into the land of the bigs and is pretty good at it. Good communicater and does distribute well. Het to compare him yo this but could be our Bowen Born, won't be effective if he doesn't have dudes around him.. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk
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Post by Butler Blue on Sept 20, 2024 10:52:23 GMT -6
I honestly don't understand Wardle's affinity for tiny point guards. Just once, I would love to see a 6'3 point guard run his stuff. Thing is though, I still haven't figured out what his offense actually is. I think he's valuing the skill and ability of a 5' 8 guy over lesser players who are taller. We could play the old, 'what if Duke Deen was 6' 3 game'. What are the chances that he'd be at Bradley?
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Post by Butler Blue on Sept 20, 2024 10:53:02 GMT -6
I still remember the hype over Tramique Sutherland lol. That dude was a shrimp, and was weak as hell. Also, not that good at basketball.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 11:12:04 GMT -6
I still remember the hype over Tramique Sutherland lol. That dude was a shrimp, and was weak as hell. Also, not that good at basketball. Exactly. It was obvious the first time he stepped on the court. I was like, Jesus, this guy is tiny and slow. But the guys on PJStar (You) tried to tell me he was good. lol
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 11:13:44 GMT -6
I honestly don't understand Wardle's affinity for tiny point guards. Just once, I would love to see a 6'3 point guard run his stuff. Thing is though, I still haven't figured out what his offense actually is. I think he's valuing the skill and ability of a 5' 8 guy over lesser players who are taller. We could play the old, 'what if Duke Deen was 6' 3 game'. What are the chances that he'd be at Bradley? Zero chance, really. But then again, maybe HOTB could have a few more golf outings and buy a 6'3 point guard. I don't know.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 11:19:37 GMT -6
Hell, I remember being told that they should launch Nate Kennell's scholarship into the sun to offer Peyton Allen. I think they made the right choice by...not doing that.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 11:20:37 GMT -6
Oh, and don't get me started on the KaDarryl Bell worship. Jesus Christ.
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Post by lakecamelot on Sept 20, 2024 12:07:02 GMT -6
I am really happy with the commitments of both point guards. I just think the combination of the two of them diminishes their overall value.
I am hopeful on both of them and agree we can get a more talented player sometimes when they are small. Just don't think they can play together. Also I was guilty on TS. I thought he would be a star for us.
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Post by bravesfan69 on Sept 20, 2024 12:20:37 GMT -6
I am really happy with the commitments of both point guards. I just think the combination of the two of them diminishes their overall value. I am hopeful on both of them and agree we can get a more talented player sometimes when they are small. Just don't think they can play together. Also I was guilty on TS. I thought he would be a star for us. I was guilty as well, because I believed people. Then I went to Carver and actually got a look at him. When he was in warmups, I was like Jesus. He doesn't look great. Then when he actually got on the court, I was like, oh fuck. This isn't it at all.
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