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Post by dogsrus on Oct 2, 2024 10:19:20 GMT -6
How do we see the 5 spot this year. It won’t be our strength but In the Valley is doesn’t need to be. Can we use a three headed monster lite with Meta, Thomas and Linke ( I said monster lite ) giving us 30 min/game 10 points , 6 boards and DH plays the other 10… As long as we don’t have to force Almar to play outta position there anymore …… My hope is Meta and Linke make some noted progress and that Thomas can give us something but right now he’s as unknown. I realize many cringe at the thought of Linke/meta and I get that but I’m thinking get used to it….. Thought ….. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by dss03 on Oct 2, 2024 10:29:31 GMT -6
How do we see the 5 spot this year. It won’t be our strength but In the Valley is doesn’t need to be. Can we use a three headed monster lite with Meta, Thomas and Linke ( I said monster lite ) giving us 30 min/game 10 points , 6 boards and DH plays the other 10… As long as we don’t have to force Almar to play outta position there anymore …… My hope is Meta and Linke make some noted progress and that Thomas can give us something but right now he’s as unknown. I realize many cringe at the thought of Linke/meta and I get that but I’m thinking get used to it….. Thought ….. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That concerning with Thomas, huh? Has Hannah increased his ability to step out and hit 3’s? Not ruling that out, given the year to year progression, but if not that’s tough for spacing on offense to pair him with Meta or Linke.
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Post by squirrel on Oct 2, 2024 10:31:44 GMT -6
With bigs like Meta - you have to look at so much more than the standard data points. And you also have to look at year-over-year improvement. His year-over-year from 1-2 was significant.
His ORtg last year was better than Ja'Shon's first senior year and Hannah's sophomore year.
I'm less bullish toward Meta than Bar and Boya, but I like what he brings to the table.
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Post by dogsrus on Oct 2, 2024 10:43:43 GMT -6
How do we see the 5 spot this year. It won’t be our strength but In the Valley is doesn’t need to be. Can we use a three headed monster lite with Meta, Thomas and Linke ( I said monster lite ) giving us 30 min/game 10 points , 6 boards and DH plays the other 10… As long as we don’t have to force Almar to play outta position there anymore …… My hope is Meta and Linke make some noted progress and that Thomas can give us something but right now he’s as unknown. I realize many cringe at the thought of Linke/meta and I get that but I’m thinking get used to it….. Thought ….. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That concerning with Thomas, huh? Has Hannah increased his ability to step out and hit 3’s? Not ruling that out, given the year to year progression, but if not that’s tough for spacing on offense to pair him with Meta or Linke. Not sure I follow your first sentence….. sorry….. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by dss03 on Oct 2, 2024 11:10:45 GMT -6
That concerning with Thomas, huh? Has Hannah increased his ability to step out and hit 3’s? Not ruling that out, given the year to year progression, but if not that’s tough for spacing on offense to pair him with Meta or Linke. Not sure I follow your first sentence….. sorry….. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I held the hope upon recruitment that he was going to be able to step in and grab the majority of the minutes at a 5 vs a 3 headed monster timeshare situation, and I saw that might work best for Hannah because Thomas banged a few 3’s in, so that opens up some of the things that make Hannah. But I am hearing Thomas may have a ways to go.
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Post by dogsrus on Oct 2, 2024 11:13:23 GMT -6
Not sure I follow your first sentence….. sorry….. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I held the hope upon recruitment that he was going to be able to step in and grab the majority of the minutes at a 5 vs a 3 headed monster timeshare situation, and I saw that might work best for Hannah because Thomas banged a few 3’s in, so that opens up some of the things that make Hannah. But I am hearing Thomas may have a ways to go. Ok thanks …… and as far as Thomas goes I have no idea. So being conservative with my forecast at this time . Really looking forward to red n white to get a small glimpse / sample of who he is. Maybe Tyron Cole Scott 😎…… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Oct 2, 2024 11:50:28 GMT -6
As of today the starting center will be Almar Atlason with Meta off the bench. Corey Thomas has not been as good as hoped. Meta on the floor with Hannah is messy and it's not really fair to Almar to have him play the post again but when they told Hannah he wouldn't have to play the five they put themselves in a bit of a bind.
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Post by catalyst82 on Oct 2, 2024 12:00:18 GMT -6
As of today the starting center will be Almar Atlason with Meta off the bench. Corey Thomas has not been as good as hoped. Meta on the floor with Hannah is messy and it's not really fair to Almar to have him play the post again but when they told Hannah he wouldn't have to play the five they put themselves in a bit of a bind. #FreeAlmar
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Post by dogsrus on Oct 2, 2024 12:02:34 GMT -6
As of today the starting center will be Almar Atlason with Meta off the bench. Corey Thomas has not been as good as hoped. Meta on the floor with Hannah is messy and it's not really fair to Almar to have him play the post again but when they told Hannah he wouldn't have to play the five they put themselves in a bit of a bind. #FreeAlmar I know …. Right . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by bravesfan69 on Oct 2, 2024 12:18:17 GMT -6
As of today the starting center will be Almar Atlason with Meta off the bench. Corey Thomas has not been as good as hoped. Meta on the floor with Hannah is messy and it's not really fair to Almar to have him play the post again but when they told Hannah he wouldn't have to play the five they put themselves in a bit of a bind. Shit. I don't like that very much.
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Post by catalyst82 on Oct 2, 2024 12:49:34 GMT -6
The easiest (only?) solution here is play Almar at the 4 whenever Darius is on the bench, I guess? The question is really what happens when Almar is off the floor, because Linke and Meta are not pulling anyone off the block, so you're just going to get the lane clogged up for Darius.
There have to be times where Darius is optimally playing the 5 per matchups. If Almar is in foul trouble, are we not better off playing Darius and four guards than Darius with Meta/Linke and 3 guards? Are we going to have a Meta/Darius lineup against a team running four guards and a forward?
Man. I'm already mad and the season hasn't started yet. Imagine our lineup if it were Duke, Zek, Almar, Darius, and MAGIC LEGITIMATE OFFENSIVE 5 WE CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Oct 2, 2024 13:44:29 GMT -6
The easiest (only?) solution here is play Almar at the 4 whenever Darius is on the bench, I guess? The question is really what happens when Almar is off the floor, because Linke and Meta are not pulling anyone off the block, so you're just going to get the lane clogged up for Darius. There have to be times where Darius is optimally playing the 5 per matchups. If Almar is in foul trouble, are we not better off playing Darius and four guards than Darius with Meta/Linke and 3 guards? Are we going to have a Meta/Darius lineup against a team running four guards and a forward? Man. I'm already mad and the season hasn't started yet. Imagine our lineup if it were Duke, Zek, Almar, Darius, and MAGIC LEGITIMATE OFFENSIVE 5 WE CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE. It can also be semantics. Is Darius just going to not check into the game if he has to play the "five" for 10 minutes a game? I am quite certain there will be times he will be the "five" even if you want to call it something else.
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Post by dogsrus on Oct 2, 2024 13:50:50 GMT -6
The easiest (only?) solution here is play Almar at the 4 whenever Darius is on the bench, I guess? The question is really what happens when Almar is off the floor, because Linke and Meta are not pulling anyone off the block, so you're just going to get the lane clogged up for Darius. There have to be times where Darius is optimally playing the 5 per matchups. If Almar is in foul trouble, are we not better off playing Darius and four guards than Darius with Meta/Linke and 3 guards? Are we going to have a Meta/Darius lineup against a team running four guards and a forward? Man. I'm already mad and the season hasn't started yet. Imagine our lineup if it were Duke, Zek, Almar, Darius, and MAGIC LEGITIMATE OFFENSIVE 5 WE CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE. It can also be semantics. Is Darius just going to not check into the game if he has to play the "five" for 10 minutes a game? I am quite certain there will be times he will be the "five" even if you want to call it something else. That’s an importaint point….. they will work it out. Almar also will/should draw center away from basket giving DH open spacing ….. Options are good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by SFP on Oct 2, 2024 14:47:17 GMT -6
Small ball is here. On the offensive side do we really need a five? Where it will impact us is when we play a team with an athletic big that can attack the rim. We'll need to be very mindful of playing team D and rebounding. That will take away from our guys being able to fast break but we have no other choice. Our bigs can be used to throw in a body to put pressure on another team's big so they're gassed by the last 5 minutes of the game. The game still comes down to scoring more then your opponent.
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Post by ljsites on Oct 2, 2024 18:36:20 GMT -6
As of today the starting center will be Almar Atlason with Meta off the bench. Corey Thomas has not been as good as hoped. Meta on the floor with Hannah is messy and it's not really fair to Almar to have him play the post again but when they told Hannah he wouldn't have to play the five they put themselves in a bit of a bind. *but when they decided to punt 3 scholarships AND tell Hannah he wouldn't have to play the five they put themselves in a bit of a bind. Almar was always the starter at 5. That's why this was always such a dumb decision. They decided that even if Thomas sucked they could get away with Al for 20, Meta for 10 and Linke for 10. I would think this results in more minutes for Zek at the 3, too.
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Post by dss03 on Oct 2, 2024 18:58:05 GMT -6
Offensively, could see where it could work really well with Almar and Darius. And I’ll give Almar credit for some in season improvement defensively, though it seemed to come at the expense of his offense some, maybe. He was still a long ways away from being at the level he’d need to be to hang with good bigs, it would have to be an immense leap to get there, but maybe it gets to that semantic point Tribe was making there. At least if the opposing big is an athletic rim runner, Darius would draw the matchup. If it’s a skilled banger, it’s a lot more complicated, just like last year, unless someone made a leap, especially without the elite helpside support we got with Leons.
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Post by Braves4Life on Oct 2, 2024 21:10:32 GMT -6
What I love about reading threads like this is how my expectations suddenly go from thinking of us as "Valley favorites and NCAAT-bound" to "Oh shit, we're gonna suck". I really can't wait to start the season and see what we've really got this year. Lol
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Post by dogsrus on Oct 3, 2024 7:13:01 GMT -6
Don’t know where to put this and unsure of rules posting links but look for the Wardle interview with Goodman and Dauster….. pretty good .
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Post by squirrel on Oct 3, 2024 8:42:23 GMT -6
To be fair, I like what Almar did while largely being overmatched this summer on the international scene. I think we'll see significant year-over-year improvement from him as well.
A common theme, IMO, is Wardle does not get enough credit for player development.
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Post by squirrel on Oct 3, 2024 8:44:21 GMT -6
Don’t know where to put this and unsure of rules posting links but look for the Wardle interview with Goodman and Dauster….. pretty good . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think there are any issues with it LOL
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