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Post by JD 4.0 on May 2, 2024 11:54:31 GMT -6
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Post by squirrel on May 2, 2024 14:16:07 GMT -6
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Post by JD 4.0 on May 14, 2024 8:50:50 GMT -6
That is brutal
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Post by SFP on Jun 8, 2024 14:41:26 GMT -6
Anyone know where Coleman Hawkins is landing after pulling out of the NBA draft? I really like his game. I believe his game is made for the NBA. Another year in college will serve him well. He has to be at the top of of the portal right now. I wish BU could afford him. He'd be the best player in the MVC.
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Post by Braves4Life on Jun 8, 2024 21:30:14 GMT -6
Anyone know where Coleman Hawkins is landing after pulling out of the NBA draft? I really like his game. I believe his game is made for the NBA. Another year in college will serve him well. He has to be at the top of of the portal right now. I wish BU could afford him. He'd be the best player in the MVC. My guess is he lands at Arkansas.
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Post by SFP on Jun 12, 2024 14:26:33 GMT -6
Anyone know where Coleman Hawkins is landing after pulling out of the NBA draft? I really like his game. I believe his game is made for the NBA. Another year in college will serve him well. He has to be at the top of of the portal right now. I wish BU could afford him. He'd be the best player in the MVC. My guess is he lands at Arkansas. He's made for Alabama and Nate Oats' system. I wonder if UConn is putting out feelers. He'd be a good fit there as well. Will he go for the $$ or the system that will showcase his talent? Illinois was a good place for him.
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Post by dss03 on Jun 14, 2024 9:14:16 GMT -6
Hawkins lands with K State and is getting a reported 2 million for it. He and his family played the game well. I gather some real brinksmanship at various spots with all kinds of schools, but I think he ultimately got what he was after.
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Post by catalyst82 on Jun 14, 2024 14:30:11 GMT -6
Illinois must have said early on they were not interested in playing this game and moved on.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Jun 14, 2024 15:13:31 GMT -6
Illinois must have said early on they were not interested in playing this game and moved on. Maybe Coleman Hawkins made it clear he didn't want to go back to Illinois.
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Post by catalyst82 on Jun 14, 2024 15:21:21 GMT -6
Illinois must have said early on they were not interested in playing this game and moved on. Maybe Coleman Hawkins made it clear he didn't want to go back to Illinois. He has talked out of both sides of his mouth on this. First, he claimed he was only going to enter the NBA draft and was not going to play college basketball anywhere but Illinois. Then, when he put his name in the transfer portal, he sent out a bunch of tweets about how that was just a "formality" and it was no big deal. Next, he said he wouldn't ask to come back to Illinois because they had already moved forward with replacing him. Now we are where we are. It was ultimately just bag chasing, but that's not something you can say out loud (even though he danced around it). 247sports.com/college/illinois/article/fighting-illini-mens-basketball-forward-coleman-hawkins-explains-transfer-portal-decision-illinois-basketball-231308682/
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Jun 14, 2024 16:46:03 GMT -6
Maybe Coleman Hawkins made it clear he didn't want to go back to Illinois. He has talked out of both sides of his mouth on this. First, he claimed he was only going to enter the NBA draft and was not going to play college basketball anywhere but Illinois. Then, when he put his name in the transfer portal, he sent out a bunch of tweets about how that was just a "formality" and it was no big deal. Next, he said he wouldn't ask to come back to Illinois because they had already moved forward with replacing him. Now we are where we are. It was ultimately just bag chasing, but that's not something you can say out loud (even though he danced around it). 247sports.com/college/illinois/article/fighting-illini-mens-basketball-forward-coleman-hawkins-explains-transfer-portal-decision-illinois-basketball-231308682/I’m not picking on you - I’ve seen the “bag chasing” comment about players before. How is that different than what a lot of people do in the world? Take jobs that pay them the most? It seems to get such a negative connotation in these situations.
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Post by catalyst82 on Jun 14, 2024 17:46:21 GMT -6
I’m not picking on you - I’ve seen the “bag chasing” comment about players before. How is that different than what a lot of people do in the world? Take jobs that pay them the most? It seems to get such a negative connotation in these situations. I think it's used in contexts where people tell some story about how "other things" are more important than money when we know it's not true. Like baseball players who claim they want to go "play for a winner" and then sign a 10 year contract with the Rockies. Stuff like that. His only interest here was getting paid. If he though he'd get $2.1 million as a 2nd round NBA pick, he'd be in the draft.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Jun 14, 2024 18:15:24 GMT -6
It's almost always about money in these situations. For everyone. Always.
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Post by dss03 on Jun 15, 2024 8:06:26 GMT -6
It's almost always about money in these situations. For everyone. Always. I think Hawkins had maximizing earnings as a priority, along with some assurance of real playing time as a 4. More proving he can guard in space and switch, and less getting abused by the Clingan’s he runs into. I don’t make any editorial around that, just a matter of opinion based off some real signs if you look for them (Arkansas didn’t meet his price, I conclude, and Louisville visit being backed off last hour hints at same to me). I do think he was getting fringy 2nd round feedback, and he’d not get anything up front like this with that status.
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Post by SFP on Jun 15, 2024 12:38:45 GMT -6
It's almost always about money in these situations. For everyone. Always. I think Hawkins had maximizing earnings as a priority, along with some assurance of real playing time as a 4. More proving he can guard in space and switch, and less getting abused by the Clingan’s he runs into. I don’t make any editorial around that, just a matter of opinion based off some real signs if you look for them (Arkansas didn’t meet his price, I conclude, and Louisville visit being backed off last hour hints at same to me). I do think he was getting fringy 2nd round feedback, and he’d not get anything up front like this with that status. This 100% $2 M speaks volume. I wonder how much his handlers are receiving. One thing is he should be very motivated for next year's draft. His game and size is made for the NBA. If he can improve on his shooting average he should land in the first round. He'll also have time to beef up.
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Post by catalyst82 on Jun 15, 2024 13:47:38 GMT -6
It's almost always about money in these situations. For everyone. Always. I think the issue is people pretending it's not. This story about how he wouldn't come back to Illinois because they already have players he told he would be gone for and he doesn't want to steal their playing time is laughable. He knows he can't come out and say "I will go wherever they pay me the most." We've had this idea that college basketball is not just about the money, but Coleman just stabbed that to death.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on Jun 15, 2024 13:52:43 GMT -6
It's almost always about money in these situations. For everyone. Always. I think the issue is people pretending it's not. This story about how he wouldn't come back to Illinois because they already have players he told he would be gone for and he doesn't want to steal their playing time is laughable. He knows he can't come out and say "I will go wherever they pay me the most." We've had this idea that college basketball is not just about the money, but Coleman just stabbed that to death. I hear ya. I guess I see college basketball like the rest of life. Money is extremely important. To athletic departments. Basketball staffs. Head coaches. Players.
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