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Post by squirrel on Apr 30, 2024 8:50:37 GMT -6
I'll be posting summaries of important stuff from the other board's thread here.
To start, here are the changes for 2024:
New Members:
ACC: Cal, SMU, Stanford
B1G: Oregon, UCLA, USC, Washington
BXII: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
SEC: Oklahoma, Texas
The Pac-12 is effectively defunct, but not officially. The league has been dropped from the autonomous group. Washington State and Oregon State will each play 6 Mountain West games each under an alliance agreement for 2024. The West Coast Conference has officially invited both schools to join as affiliate members for basketball and most non-football sports. The football alliance arrangement with the MWC is expected to be executed through the 2025-26 school year.
AAC: Army (football-only)
CUSA: Kennesaw State (2024), Delaware (2025)
MAC: UMass
Southland: UT Rio Grande Valley
CAA Football: Bryant
UAC (ASUN/WAC football-only merger): Abilene Christian, Austin Peay, Central Arkansas, Eastern Kentucky, North Alabama, Southern Utah, Stephen F. Austin, Tarleton, Utah Tech, West Georgia
MAAC: Merrimack, Sacred Heart
NEC: Chicago State, Mercyhurst
Reclassifying Institutions by last provisional year
2024-25: Bellarmine, Tarleton, UC San Diego, Utah Tech
2026-27: Lindenwood, Queens, Southern Indiana, St. Thomas, Stonehill, Texas A&M Commerce
2027-28: LeMoyne
2028-29: Mercyhurst, West Georgia
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Post by squirrel on May 1, 2024 14:55:25 GMT -6
WAC on shaky ground - nothing imminent - but a lot to digest:
Stephen F. Austin is seriously considering a move back to the Southland, which could contribute to sandbagging the precarious UAC arrangement. On the heels of UT RGV announcing a similar move last month, they could announce the move within the month, and it could be a sign of in-fighting among members of the new football-only league, and would jeopardize the status of the WAC as an all-sports league. The Utah schools have been engaged in preliminary discussions with the Summit, and the WCC could end up being a landing spot for Cal Baptist, and potentially Grand Canyon, but there may be some resistance from WCC membership toward GCU.
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Post by panthergrad2011 on May 1, 2024 20:02:54 GMT -6
Squirrel, I know your post was more about the WAC but would there be any chance that Eastern Kentucky and Austin Peay would decide to come back to the OVC or have they basically cast their dye with the ASUN?
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on May 1, 2024 20:26:19 GMT -6
WAC on shaky ground - nothing imminent - but a lot to digest: Stephen F. Austin is seriously considering a move back to the Southland, which could contribute to sandbagging the precarious UAC arrangement. On the heels of UT RGV announcing a similar move last month, they could announce the move within the month, and it could be a sign of in-fighting among members of the new football-only league, and would jeopardize the status of the WAC as an all-sports league. The Utah schools have been engaged in preliminary discussions with the Summit, and the WCC could end up being a landing spot for Cal Baptist, and potentially Grand Canyon, but there may be some resistance from WCC membership toward GCU. There will be HUGE resistance from WCC schools towards Grand Canyon. |
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Post by squirrel on May 2, 2024 7:58:15 GMT -6
Squirrel, I know your post was more about the WAC but would there be any chance that Eastern Kentucky and Austin Peay would decide to come back to the OVC or have they basically cast their dye with the ASUN? Good question - a lot probably depends on if the UAC stays intact as a football-only entity. If it does, they probably stay A-Sun. |
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Post by panthergrad2011 on May 2, 2024 19:48:48 GMT -6
Squirrel, I know your post was more about the WAC but would there be any chance that Eastern Kentucky and Austin Peay would decide to come back to the OVC or have they basically cast their dye with the ASUN? Good question - a lot probably depends on if the UAC stays intact as a football-only entity. If it does, they probably stay A-Sun. I'm sure the OVC would take them if for no other reason that they could do a full conference schedule for football since they only have 6 football playing schools at the moment. |
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Post by ph on May 5, 2024 8:43:16 GMT -6
Somewhat related. NCAA considering allowing more baseball scholarships, which might help strengthen the divide between top and lower teams.
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Post by tribecalledquest2024 on May 5, 2024 9:25:42 GMT -6
Somewhat related. NCAA considering allowing more baseball scholarships, which might help strengthen the divide between top and lower teams. I heard a story the other day that Ole Miss baseball gave a kid a car and 150K in NIL. |
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Post by ph on May 5, 2024 12:28:34 GMT -6
I guess NIL kinda removes the scholarship restrictions anyway. Officially changing the rule would allow for more women’s title IX opportunities for the time being.
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Post by Jli2636 on May 8, 2024 12:44:10 GMT -6
Somewhat related. NCAA considering allowing more baseball scholarships, which might help strengthen the divide between top and lower teams. I heard a story the other day that Ole Miss baseball gave a kid a car and 150K in NIL. That's Just the tip of the iceberg in the SEC. Ask any SEC baseball fan how they feel about Vanderbilt and you will get an earful. Vandy has a baseball endowment to cover differences in athletic and academic scholarship funding. It's one of the reasons Vandy gets the talent they do even though the school is one of if not the most expensive schools in the conference. |
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Post by panthergrad2011 on May 8, 2024 19:37:19 GMT -6
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Post by saintloubrave22 on May 8, 2024 19:48:32 GMT -6
Somewhat related. NCAA considering allowing more baseball scholarships, which might help strengthen the divide between top and lower teams. I heard a story the other day that Ole Miss baseball gave a kid a car and 150K in NIL. Georgia's Football QB stayed and got a Lambo so it's not out of the realm of possibilities. |
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Post by squirrel on May 9, 2024 14:38:22 GMT -6
I like charts - Also, on Idaho - when the Vandals and Boise State joined FBS (IIRC it was the same year) - Idaho was arguably the better program, despite Boise State's tradition. But Boise quickly found a path to success and blew up, while Idaho largely remained irrelevant and then reclassified back down. |
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Post by panthergrad2011 on May 9, 2024 19:42:20 GMT -6
I like charts - Also, on Idaho - when the Vandals and Boise State joined FBS (IIRC it was the same year) - Idaho was arguably the better program, despite Boise State's tradition. But Boise quickly found a path to success and blew up, while Idaho largely remained irrelevant and then reclassified back down. Yeah, they both joined the Big West in 1996. I actually wonder whether Idaho would be able to be in FBS nowadays, given the size of the Kibbie Dome (and I'm a fan of that stadium by the way). And yes I know Hawai'i is playing in a much smaller stadium nowadays than when they were in Aloha Stadium even with the expansions they have made in recent years. |
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Post by squirrel on May 10, 2024 8:38:54 GMT -6
Missouri State to join CUSA for all sports in 2025.
Future CUSA
Delaware (2025)
FIU
Jacksonville St
Kennesaw St (2024)
Liberty
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
Missouri St (2025)
New Mexico State
Sam Houston St
UTEP
Western Kentucky
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Post by dss03 on May 10, 2024 8:41:26 GMT -6
Imagine the other football schools are looking are looking for their entry points as well, now that the first domino has fallen.
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Post by squirrel on May 10, 2024 11:18:12 GMT -6
Today is shaping up to be a busy day -
Grand Canyon and Seattle to the WCC.
Interesting because something had to have happened to convince the hard "no's" on GCU - curious what the story will be there.
This now leaves the WAC with:
Abilene Christian (football)
Cal Baptist (non-foootball)
Southern Utah (football)
Stephen F. Austin (football)
Tarleton State (football)
Texas-Arlington (non-football)
Utah Tech (football)
Utah Valley (non-football)
And probable split of the Texas schools all going Southland at least temporarily and the Utah schools going to the Summit League.
My guess is the WAC will officially be dead by July 1, once future moves are fully executed.
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Post by squirrel on May 10, 2024 11:51:34 GMT -6
Part of the fallout could be the creation of a new south/southeastern basketball-only league that looks something like this
Bellarmine
Florida Gulf Coast
Jacksonville
Lipscomb
New Orleans
Northern Kentucky
North Florida
Texas Arlington
Texas A&M - Corpus Christi
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Post by Braves4Life on May 10, 2024 12:12:54 GMT -6
Missouri State to join CUSA for all sports in 2025. Future CUSADelaware (2025) FIU Jacksonville St Kennesaw St (2024) Liberty Louisiana Tech Middle Tennessee Missouri St (2025) New Mexico State Sam Houston St UTEP Western Kentucky This is where Wichita State belongs. |
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Post by squirrel on May 10, 2024 12:24:12 GMT -6
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